A while ago in a Dutch newspaper there was a fine article about the English disease, aka the inability to understand ones size.
interesting how many supporters of China there are on this thread. Hmmm
I don' t think many supporters of China but many more utter haters of Johnson and his strategy
Chinas hypersonic anti-ship missiles such as the DF21-ID make aircraft carriers vulnerable. It can be argued that the Qe2-class carriers were obsolete before their keels were laid down.
it Britain's core interest? Is it even the USs core interest? Are we prepared to fight China P Are we prepared for the casualties? Has the government thought this through? I take one look at Johnson and doubt it。
India will be delighted at these and other deployments.
should the navy be afraid of sailing in international waters?
No. But it's a costly bit of willy-waving and harassmentis to be expected, similar to how we also pay a fortune scramblig RAF Lossiemouth to harass Russian planes in international airspace.
it will be just like the"International waters"off the Crimea where the ships just happen to have a clutch of friendly crespondents on board, and the Chinese play the role of the Russians in that instance. Our boys sail boldly on, according to the bbc, but turn and flee according to the Chinese media the problem is that fast jets overflying an aircraft carrier to make a point could end up messy.
Ihear they have a few chests of opium in the hold. It'll be fine
China has not forgotten the British perfidy towards it over the past 150 years. To expect China to accept the benign"expnation"that it is not meant as a threat is as if the Gneisnau, Scharnhorst and Bismark were to sail up and down the Irish Sea to confirm freedom of movement 6 months af ter the end of wwIl, and be treated as an act of no significance by Britan. There seems to be no comprehension by Britain of how despised we are as a nation for how we treated China and the China we were effectively drug pushers and mafiosi who thought nothing of military violence to teach a lesson to China everytime it complained about how it was being treated. The Chinese have long memories of what was done to them by the britis Why should they trust and listen to us? They remember the British adventurism just as we remember the Somme. We lost have If a million men: China lost 1os of millions to get where they are in terms of development and economic security, and suddnly Western nations again want to tell them what to do. Nope.
It is time we, and ev ery other nation, developed the ability to forget long-ago transgressions. It serves no purpose, uness you think hatred is a good thing
Cant expect China to forget the Opium Wars since we can't bring ourselves to forget WW2
Except Britain is still trying to tell China what to do. So it aint just historicaL Besides, if someone burned your house down and half your relatives died, then a couple of years later wanted to be your friend and liked that nice plot of land you have, would you be welcoming them with open arms?
Can't expect China to forget the Opium Wars since we can't bring ourselves to forget WW2 No-one I know, my friends, family, work colleagues mention wW2. We have a dignified commemoration every Remembranceay for those who sacrificed so much for our freedoms
I am sure you are quite happy to forget the atrocities the British empire visited upon other nations. Unfortunately those nations have somewhat longer memories
I suggest that this exercise is much more to do with US UK relations than UK taking on the Chinese government The US wilbe looking to reign in the UK using military partnerships, in its geopolitical strategy, Johnson has no strategy and needs no strategy.
Poblem is, messing with Beijing isn' t the same as messing with argentina.hatcher won an election with herstunt Boris might end up with major UK cities reduced to smoking, radioactive ruins
Of course not Why would China be bothered to bomb English cities? An island on the other side of the world
Problem is the uK tends not to know its own limits any more, if it turns to a shooting match no one knows where it will.
I am no fan of Boris Gump but too much of the criticism here is prompted because of him, not the real issues