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英国网民评论电动车产业不可能追上中国
发布时间:2020-03-21 08:43:19   浏览:
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近日有报道指,英国企业打算将投资120亿英镑转向新能源汽车,但同时也有大部分企业担忧,新车和电池成本太高,无法与中国竞争...
UK companies to invest £12bn in switch to electric vehicles
-With a fuel duty rise expected in this week’s budget, a survey by Centrica finds businesses on course to move to cleaner cars and vans
网友评论:
TheLordVader
That’s a great start!! I can’t see anything negative about this.
 
这是一个很好的开始!!我看不出有什么不好。
 
ActiveNL
Battery production is often very damaging to the environment.
Break down of batteries is often done in countries that don''''t give a shit about the environment.
Shortages of critical metals like Kobalt and Nikkel etc.
 
电池的生产往往会对环境造成很大的破坏。
在那些对环境毫不关心的国家里,电池经常会出问题。
还有关键金属,比如钴和锂等的短缺。
 
l4mbch0ps
You know what the number one consumer of cobalt in the world is?
The petroleum industry.
 
你知道世界上最大的钴消费产业是什么吗?
是石油产业。
 
thor561
Didn''''t see any mention about how their electrical grid is supposed to handle all the extra load from charging electric vehicles. Maybe this isn''''t as much of an issue in the UK, but in most of the US this is going to be the number one physical hurdle to encouraging electric car adoption.
 
没有看到任何关于他们的电网应该如何处理所有额外的来自电动汽车充电的负荷的。或许这在英国不是什么大问题,但在美国大部分地区,这将是鼓励人们采用电动汽车的头号现实阻碍。
 
Tetracyclic
Energy production isn''''t an issue in the UK currently with any reasonable projected uptake of EVs. Per-person energy consumption is on a downwards trend due to efficiency improvements and regulatory changes and over the next few decades a lot of new offshore wind plants are due to come online. We''''re also interconnected with the continental European grid.
The biggest problem is delivering the power to individual consumers who don''''t have somewhere to install a charger, but this isn''''t an insurmountable problem by any means.
 
目前英国的能源生产要满足任何合理的电动汽车的预计使用不是问题。由于能效的提高和监管的变化,人均能源消耗呈下降趋势,在未来几十年里,许多新的海上风力发电厂将投入使用。我们还与欧洲大陆的电网相连。
最大的问题在于怎么将电力输送给那些没有地方安装充电桩的个人消费者,但不管怎样这都不是一个不可克服的问题。
 
aapowers
Not really a problem if people charge at night - main issues in the UK are:
1) cost (no second hand market yet)
2) charging (nearly 40% of dwellings have no offstreet parking, and a larger proportion will not have an appropriate place for a charger)
General reluctance due to stubbornness will be dealt with fairly quickly if we can get the infrastructure right.
Many of the new batch of small electric cars can do 200+ miles, so the range issue is no longer an issue.
 
如果人们在晚上充电,那这就不是什么大问题——英国的主要问题是:
1、成本(暂无二手电动汽车市场)
2、充电(近40%的住宅没有街边停车位,更大比例的住宅没有合适的充电场所)
如果我们能把基础设施建设好,那么由于固执而导致的普遍不情愿将会很快得到解决。
许多新一代的小型电动汽车可以跑200英里以上,所以续航里程不再是问题了。
 
RealReportUK
"Many of the new batch of small electric cars can do 200+ miles, so the range issue is no longer an issue."
Meh, I''''ll only be really excited when they get to 400 miles.
 
“许多新一代的小型电动汽车可以跑200英里以上,所以续航里程不再是问题了”
呃,只有当他们开到400英里的时候,我才会真正感到兴奋。
 
 
deeringc
Actually, EVs are a fantastic complement to the other major transformation that''''s happening in the UK energy which is the massive switch to offshore wind. The challenge with wind is smoothing out the highs and lows. You either export your excess, or find some way to store the energy. There are large pumped storage plants in Wales and Scotland which can help with this. But with the huge growth in wind generation it''''s nowhere near enough. We''''ll be able to leverage a widely distributed and smart-grid aware network of electric cars to charge their batteries while there is an excess of wind power and actually provide power back to the grid when there is a temporary shortage. Our world will look very different in 25 years.
 
实际上,电动汽车是对英国能源正在发生的另一个重大转变的一个极好的补充,那就是大规模转向海上风能。风能面临的挑战是要消除发电量的高低起伏。你要么输出多余的能量,要么找到储存能量的方法。在威尔士和苏格兰有大型抽水蓄能电站可以帮助解决这个问题。但随着风力发电的巨大增长,这远远不够。我们将能够利用广泛分布和智能电网感知的电动汽车网络,在风力过剩时为电池充电,并在临时短缺时实际向电网提供电力。25年后,我们的世界将会大不相同。
 
Whatsapokemon
The only negative thing I can think of would be if they somehow demanded subsidy/government intervention in order to fund this change, and threatened not to do it if they didn''''t get government help.
Nothing like that seems to be in the article though, so it seems positive.
It makes economic sense to invest in electric vehicles though, and will reduce their costs in the long run, so it makes sense that they''''re doing it.
 
我能想到的唯一消极的事情是,如果他们以某种方式要求补贴/政府干预,以资助这一转变,并威胁说,如果他们没有得到政府的帮助,就不去买电动汽车。
不过,文章中似乎没有类似的内容,所以它看起来是积极的。
投资电动汽车在经济上是有意义的,从长远来看会降低他们的成本,所以他们这样做是有意义的。
 
WannabeTraveler87
The power company might have something to say bout that! I really really doubt they have the capacity to charge an entire fleet of electric vehicles.
Other than that it is awesome news. Once all vehicles are electric, we just need to figure out out to produce clean energy on a scale and consistency we need
 
电力公司可能有话要说!我真地真地怀疑他们是否有能力为整个电动汽车大军的电动汽车充电。
除此之外,这是一个极好的消息。一旦所有的交通工具都是电动的,我们只需要解决生产清洁能源的规模和一致性就行了
 
cute_froggo
Work for a power company. We don''''t have much to say about it, really. Current capacity can handle this, and means more money for us.
 
在一家电力公司工作。我们对此没什么可说的,真的。目前的产能可以应对这种情况,这意味着我们将获得更多的资金。
 
ColonelVirus
Someone already pointed out their not yet practical in a real world sense. Van that''''s meant to go 250 miles only managed 70 due to it being wet and cold (heaters destroyed the battery life).
It''''s a nice idea, I hope they improve the battery tech more. I work for a haulage company and spend 200k a week on fuel. Swapping to electric would be a huge bonus... Alas there are no decent electric trucks on the market yet.
 
有人已经指出了他们在现实世界中的不实用性。因为又湿又冷(加热器损坏了电池寿命),一辆本来要跑250英里的货车却只能跑70英里。
这是个好主意,我希望他们能进一步提高电池技术。我在一家运输公司工作,每周花20万美元买燃料。换到电动汽车将是一个巨大的好处…可惜的是,目前市场上还没有像样的电动卡车。
 
Newman1974
Companies "investing" does nothing to address the necessary redistribution of wealth. Environmental solutions must address both these issues to be truly green.
 
企业的“投资”无助于解决必要的财富再分配问题。要实现真正的绿色,环境解决方案必须同时解决这两个问题。
 
PartyOperator
London is not at all representative of the UK, least of all in car use. Households in central London are much richer and much less likely to own a car than the average, and the people who do have cars in London are even higher income. Many of them probably don''''t have private parking spaces or access to a charger.
I agree that quite a few Teslas could be sold in the UK, but the BBC (other than Top Gear) generally isn''''t in the business of advertising luxury vehicles. Or any cars for that matter, but they''''re definitely not going to be promoting something that a large majority of people in the UK can''''t afford.
If you read newspapers favoured by people who can afford Teslas, you''''ll find a lot more content about them... Here''''s a series of articles about Tesla and Tesla vehicles by the FT.
 
伦敦完全不能代表英国,尤其是在汽车使用方面。伦敦市中心的家庭比英国平均水平富裕得多,拥有汽车的可能性也低得多,而在伦敦拥有汽车的人的收入甚至更高。他们中的许多人可能没有私人停车位或充电桩。
我赞同特斯拉在英国可以卖很多车,但BBC(除了《疯狂汽车秀》)一般不做豪华车的广告。或任何其他汽车,但他们肯定不会宣传一些大多数英国人负买不起的东西。
如果你读了那些买得起特斯拉的人喜欢的报纸,你会发现关于特斯拉的更多内容……这里(译注:链接)是英国《金融时报》关于特斯拉和特斯拉汽车的系列文章。
 
dontdonk
But people would rather a combustion engine.
 
但人们更喜欢内燃汽车。
 
redldr1
While in America: beautiful clean coal
 
与此同时在美国:美丽的干净的碳。
 
not_creative1
But American private industry is pushing ahead like crazy though.
Tesla has single handedly pushed the industry ahead by 20 years. They did most of the hard work of changing the perception of what an electric car can be in the minds of the people. You remember when people thought electric cars were ugly, slow and had like 100 mile range and took 8 hours to charge.
If it were upto Volkswagen, we would still be thinking that garbage BMWi3 is the pinnacle of electric cars
Tesla is doing to car industry what Apple did to phone industry with the first iPhone. Completely reimagine and set a high bar for the rest of the industry to meet.
Most people today think the touchscreen smart phones are normal, but back then when iPhone came out, it was like some alien tech had just dropped. It was insane and I remember being blown away that we could watch movies on a phone. If you watch the event where jobs unveils the phone and goes over the features, people are literally going “ooooooh” when he says “you can listen to your voice mail in any order you want now”
That was what the phones were like back then. I have colleagues who worked at Motorola at the time, and they were like it took the management 3 years to see iPhone was real and they had to beat it. It was almost too late by then. Samsung ha reacted faster. Apparently, my friend’s VP would even ban people from bringing iPhones into the meeting, because he thought that was a toy and a fad.
The electric car industry is following now
 
但是美国的私营企业正在疯狂地向前推进。
特斯拉单枪匹马就把这个行业向前推进了20年。他们做了大量艰苦的工作来改变人们对电动汽车的看法。你还记得人们认为电动汽车很丑,速度慢,行驶100英里,充电需要8个小时吗。
如果换成大众,我们仍然会认为宝马3是电动汽车的巅峰之作
特斯拉对汽车行业的影响,就像苹果第一部iPhone对手机行业的影响一样。完全重新想象,并为行业的其余部分设定一个高标准。
今天大多数人认为触屏智能手机是正常的,但当iPhone出现的时候,它就像一些刚刚降临的外星技术。这太疯狂了,我记得我们可以在手机上看电影,这让我大吃一惊。如果你看了乔布斯发布新手机的发布会,仔细看了它的功能,你会发现当他说“你现在可以按你想要的任何顺序收听语音信箱”的时候,人们真地会发出“哦!!!!”的惊叹声。
那时的手机就是这样的。我有一些同事当时在摩托罗拉工作,他们觉得管理层花了3年时间才发现iPhone(带来的威胁)是真的,他们必须打败它。但那时已经太晚了。三星则反应更快。显然,我朋友的副总裁甚至会禁止人们带iphone参加会议,因为他认为那只是一种玩具和时尚。
电动汽车行业也紧随其后
 
 
ExHax
I do think the best way to start the transition is by changing all the buses and vehicle''''s used by government organization to electric. Like the delivery truck
 
我确实认为最好的开始过渡的方法就是先把所有公共汽车和政府机构使用的车辆都换成电动的。比如运货卡车
 
RiderLibertas
That''''s great! Now if only we could get the electricity they use generated from clean sources. Most power plants are still burning oil and coal.
 
这太好了!现在,如果我们能得到他们使用的来自清洁能源的电力就好了。大多数发电厂仍在燃烧石油和煤。
 
jayman221
Good for them but what they are doing other countries been doing for the last five years
 
这对他们来说是好事,但是其他国家早在过去5年里就一直在推这件事了,尤其是中国。

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