in my experience mainland China has a thick mix of superstition, dogmatic nationalism, and underground churches. So while nominally irreligious I wouldn't call China especially athiest at all.
Most Chinese are apatheism which is also a tradition of China.persticion, yes, that's part of the culture. But dogmatic nationalism and underground churches? most people in China do It follow that at all.
This was my experience as well So many people are so superstitious, you can hardly call them "atheist" or "non-religious" So many believe supernatural forces control their lives.
know quite a few white Canadians who call themselves non-religious", yet still believe in things like luck, astrology,ghosts, karma, and /or an afterlife.
Hey man all my superstitions have to do with Hockey
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mean luck and karma are universal concepts that apply regardless of how you think of them
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The standard for"religious"in China is different fram the West When you say"religion"in Chinese s* zangiiao), it typically connotes what we call organized religion in the West, ie. Catholicism, Islam, Protestantism and son. Most Chinese dont belong to a specific diocese, church or mosque or regularly attend services. That being said, they ave deeply rooted religious beliefs, which manifest themselves in traditional holidays and traditions.or example, today on the street I saw quite a few people burning paper money on the street That s Because today is winter solstice, and in this region of China, on this day families whose elders have passed away will burn paper money so the deceased have money to spend in the afterlife. They also hope it brings the souls of their beloved back to their homes
in preparation for the Chinese New Year (On a side note, this kind of thing is still quite common in mainland China, so those people who say there's no"traditial culture" is misleading at best, lying at worst So, would this kind of practice be cansidered ss# religion? No, at least not by China s standards. But it can be called a习俗民俗a" traditianal/ falk astm" Most people who practice these cus toms would consider tmselves atheists, yet they on at least some level believe in an afterlife, souls, reincarnation and so on would hesitate to call these beliefs"dubious, "as they are just as"logical"as Western religion, and dare I say lessarmful IE. vast majority of people in China believe in vaccines, evolution and global warming, in contrast to the US. China used to be mired in much more feudal superstition, but most of the worst ones disappeared with the times.edit: thanks for the downvotes, kind strangers. Not sure what in my comment offended you, just trying to inform people.
do agree that they are clearly less dubious than e. g. Catholicism which is an obvious scam/pyramid game.However, I guess you can't call them true atheists if they believe in a afterlife: I guess that makes them agnostic? They believe in something: they just dont know what honestly very confused by agnostics, I'm religious, and I understand and respect atheists. I like what I believe, but think what they believe makes sense: certainly it's more scientific than faith. But agnostics, people who believe in shit like ghosts and horoscopes, that makes no sense to me. Ifyou're going to believe in a higher power, just join an organzed religion. It has social value. If you don' t like organized religion, work on your rational and scientific thinking so you can be a real atheist Being agnostic sounds like literally the worst of both worlds.
absolutly right. The Chinese might not be religious but sure as hell they're superstitious
At least religion at its best has a few redeeming qualities. Superstition is just stupid
At least religion at its best has a few redeeming qualities. Superstition is just stupid As far as that goes, I'll just say this: China never had a go years war over which version of Christianity is the best ole, nor a thousand years of hatred within the same religion, like different sects of Islam. I personally think both have rdeeming qualities, but organized religion has more potential dangers than mere folklore. No one has killed over China'smany city gods, wealth gods, or feng shui, but they have killed over holy lands and"God"as defined in Abrahamic texts.Folklore in Chinese culture gives a connection to the worship ancestors, ways to honor the deceased, etc. It isnt hurting anyone.
eah I agree. There are a set of chinese religious traditions and practices that everyone follows, it's just a culturalind religious mix. People will go to temples to pray, but then not say they are Buddhist or Taoist or Confucian, they are tust chinese China doesnt have the winner takes all proselytizing tradition of the west.
Another way of looking at the question would be to compare the history of Europe and China between 250 BCE and appx 1700 when Europeans arrived to colonize China. During that period Europe had constant warfare, particularly after the arrival othe Prince of Peace which precipitated the downfall of the Pax Romana in only 1oo years after Rome adopted Christianity. What were the two major belief systems in China during that time? Confucius and Lao Tse provided two contrasting and compementary ways of guiding behavior. We tend to practice eisegesis with other cultures.(Definition of eisegesis, the int
erpretation of a text(as of the Bible) by reading into it ones own ideas- compare exegesis. ) For example, " ancestorworship rather than respect. Imperial ists do not bother to find out about another culture, they read into it, as a generarule. But if we just look at the result- China(to simplify)enjoyed peace for appx 2000 years while the Christians fought each other constantly. The area and populations are similar but the blood spilled is not One has to conclude that theChristian belief system prompts endless murder while the Chinese belief systems prompt orderly, calm behavior. Indeed, Je
us did say I come not to bring peace, but a sword. "Well that is what happened.